Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Tribune & Oregonian

Back in the dark ages when Portland was fortunate enough to have two dailies, I always enjoyed seeing what the Journals slant was on something vs the Oregonian. and very often different





Then they merged and maintained some separateness for awhile, but soon we had only one Portland paper. How sad. The Big O had the only newspaper view. and over time I found I had many problems with their views. I think major metro area like ours needs to hear from more than one newspaper





Son moved to Puget Sound, he has several daily options. we don%26#39;t





Than along came the Tribune whose first pres was a sports writer Dwight Jaynes. But they have challenged some of the Big O%26#39;s



views. I think first whats going on with tram came from Tribune.





And many others, street car losses, bad street SW PDX, etc





Hope you all have had chance to read Tribune. another view.



Tribune %26amp; Oregonian


I used to listen to Dwight Jaynes%26#39; radio show, but then he quit to run the Tribune. Is he no longer there, then? And, while we%26#39;re on the subject (OK, we%26#39;re not), what ever happened to Bill Gallagher (used to have a show on the same station)?



Tribune %26amp; Oregonian


As some one who enjoys reading daily papers when on holiday (and yes we are lucky we have several to choose from in London from the right wing Express and Mail to the reactionary (but great for sport) Telegraph to the left wing Guardian) I would be interested to know more. What is the difference between the two papers and do they have a genuine influence?




phirl--I have not read the Tribune yet. But agree about the Oregonian. When we lived in Seattle we had several good choices. We had the PI as well as the Everett Herald, both daily. I liked the PI for world news, but the EH was great for local stuff, but no podunk style at all. Had a good opinion section, etc. Have not found anything similar here...the weekly Tualatin Times doesn%26#39;t come close, and then our little town has a monthly paper, lol!




';Hope you all have had chance to read Tribune.';





And there%26#39;s no reason to not read it; it%26#39;s free. :-)




To answer your question, adamhornets, the Oregonian generally tracks with the city%26#39;s liberal government%26#39;s views. Those of us who%26#39;ve been around here for a while have only to read the headlines to know pretty much what the articles are going to say.





The Tribune was started by a wealthy local businessman for the exact reasons that phirl cited; he wanted to give Portlanders a different (more conservative) slant on what happens around here. He%26#39;s done a decent job, but readership of the Tribune is far below that of the Oregonian.





Enjoy your trip! And I hope you pick up a copy of the Tribune! ;-)




The Oregonian is daily and is kind of like watching network news. It%26#39;s pretty much the right place to get the basics. However the editorial board seems very provincial to me and this slips over to slants on stories, headlines, etc.





The Tribune offers a different approach with many ';disclosure'; articles that provide food for thought. I value it. I have great respect for Phil Stanford.





That said, both are reputable. But I do wish there were more.





I%26#39;m a newspaper junkie. When I spend time in New York over Christmas I am in newspaper junkie heaven with tabloids, The Post, Times, The Wall Street Journal . Same with visits to England.





If you are in Portland for a visit and interested in the indie arts scene, pick up a copy of Willamette Week. It hits the stands on Wednesday. Free. Lists live music, etc., has some commentary and occasionally a good article. It%26#39;s kind of a mainstream weekly rag that tries really hard to be hip and anti-almost-everything. But it is good for what it is good for.




Willamette Week I used to read that, but when Jim Redden and sthe sharp witted women columnist left, I found there was nobody I read any more.





Jim Redden good investigative reporter and now with Tribune. And they have a couple more who like to cite facts. Big O does not a;ways do that.





And agree with Mistletoe so many Big O stories that headlins is all you need





Tribune also has two best sports columnists in town Jaynes and Eggers. And I always read Stanford. can%26#39;t say that about many big O columnists, Susan Nielson and John Terry I read.





I found Tribune at Safeway in Sherwood one morn, so it gets that far out of the city. Tribune is a Portland paper, so they don%26#39;t cover suburbia much




Phirl--I literally just walked in the door from that Safeway! LOL! If I would have known, I would have picked up a copy. I will be over there later today, so hope I remember to stop.




Just had to laugh at Mistletoe%26#39;s statement about that liberal rag, The Oregonian.





Is this the same Oregonian that has endorsed only 2 democrats for president in it%26#39;s 152 year history?





Anyway, I agree with you, phirl - it is good to have competition, maybe it will make the Oregonian work a little harder than just reprinting the day%26#39;s Associated Press reports. Between the Tribune, Willamette Week and The Mercury, there is a wide variety of news coverage now in Portland compared to the historical dependence on The Oregonian.





I%26#39;ve always found The Oregonian to be a tremendously boring read, actually, compared to other newspapers around. I used to read The Columbian and Willamette Week instead because they were more interesting. Now, with the internet, I don%26#39;t hardly pick up a paper anymore - it%26#39;s all delivered right to my inbox.





I also found it was essentially a reflection of the local news with little if any investigative reporting either locally or nationally and routinely leaves out groundbreaking international stories that the big papers like the Washington Post, New York Times, or Los Angeles Times cover.




and routinely leaves out groundbreaking international stories that the big papers like the Washington Post, New York Times, or Los Angeles Times cover





Boring I agree.





However I think Tribune does quite good investigative reporting. which Big O does not.





A few examples





Forest Park is not the largest rk inside a US city, actually 19th. and only 4th largest forest park.





Streetcar has annual loss of $2million.





Tram is...





SW city streets in terrible shape.





PDC may need more controls.





and so forth.

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